Scheinheilige Christen in der Familie
in Alle anderen & Alles andere 16.06.2010 13:40von Kiwi • Besucher | 5.827 Beiträge
Ich dachte ja gestern Abend ich spinne... Jolenes (Dogs Schwester) Status auf Facebook hat mich ziemlich irritiert. Ein Blick auf ihre Seite bewies dann mal wieder, wie falsch diese Ami-Christen sein können. *kopfschüttel*
Und zwar echauffiert sich die gute über die Bilder von Dog und Co zur No H8 Kampagne - schließlich sagt die Bibel, dass Homosexualität einen in die Hölle bringt... und kriegt auch noch Zustimmung dafür! Ich kopier euch das mal hier rein, schenk mir allerdings die Übersetzung... ich glaub, das wichtigste versteht man auch so.
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Jolene Chapman
What is on my mind?! Contending for the faith after certain pics and words were brought to my attention today! My thoughts are in the next 7 wall posts.
09. Juni um 07:08
Ashley Waguespack
what pics Jo?if its the ones about the oil spill..yeah its breaking my heart..glad the oil hasn't reached the lake yet!
09. Juni um 07:14
Jolene Chapman
"No H8"
09. Juni um 07:20
Cassie Lawerence
Are you aganst the NO H8?
09. Juni um 07:23
Ashley Waguespack
whats NOH8? Its like explaining to a person what a powwow or what the AIM movement is about!! I got a site for Mr Bobby. I'll give it to you..its nothing but powwow music.
09. Juni um 07:30
Cassie Lawerence
NOh8 i believe is the gay activist rights? Im not postive.. But I do know that DOG and Duane Lee and Leland and Lyssa and Beth all just did a picture. They posted it on twitter... NOh8 is about how prop 8 made it so no gay/lesiban people can be married.
09. Juni um 07:32
Ashley Waguespack
ah thanks for explaining....the site that plays nonstop powwow music is http://www.radio.powwows.com
09. Juni um 07:33
Cassie Lawerence
NO Problem Ashley!Are you for or aganst the Noh8?
09. Juni um 07:34
Ashley Waguespack
against....eventhough i have friends who are gay.hollywood shouldn't be shoving this down people's throats ya know.
09. Juni um 07:38
Cassie Lawerence
Jolene are you aganst the NO H8?
09. Juni um 07:38
Cassie Lawerence
Yeah.. For me.. I have a couple of Gay/Lesibean friends. And According to the bible and stuff, it is wrong I know that. But For me.. ITs like Im ok with it .As long as my friends or the person is happy.. Im happy for them. As Long as I dont have to see anything ..
I believe that Hollywood shouldnt be pushin this stuff down peoples throats as well... Mehr anzeigen, but I do think that it is pretty cool that alot of celebs are getting together to be a voice for all of the Gays and lesbians. I think its Pretty cool That Dog and Beth and Crew did a pic for it .. ITs actually a good picture.
09. Juni um 07:40
Ashley Waguespack
true
09. Juni um 07:41
Jason Crouse Ist meines Wissens nach auch einer aus der Familie
If God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah partly because of the overwhelming levels of homosexuality that were present in these cities, why would we be so foolish to think that He's ok with it today? He is the same yesterday, today, and forever more.
We are not called to hate homosexuals, but rather the sin of homosexuality that leads them straight to ... Mehr anzeigenhell. If you have gay friends, you should be a beacon of truth, not just sit there and pretend that it's ok as long as you don't have to see anything.
If you're truly their friend, you should be praying for their salvation everyday and witnessing to them when you can.
Friends Don't Let Friends Go To HELL!!!
09. Juni um 16:04
Linda Kriebel
Excellently said Jason. It took me a while to figure this out. I have to wonder why Duane, Beth and the kids did that pic. I know there is someone close to one of them who is professing their relationship with someone of the same sex, so I can't help but wonder if they're doing this to support this person instead of trying to show this person the ... Mehr anzeigenerrors of their ways. Not hating someone is great and what the Lord wants, but the reason for this just wrong. We need to pray for all those lost in this sin and for those who support them for they are misdirected.
09. Juni um 19:56
Jolene Chapman
Who knows what the reason; it still doesn... Mehr anzeigen’t make it right. Sometimes people won’t take a stand on this issue because they are secretly swingers and/or are bisexual. In other words, they are still in the closet living a lie. One day all of our hearts will be exposed. That is why I wrote what I did about Randy Grier’s meetings. It is time to be honest with ourselves and take back what we let the devil talk us into. Let’s take people to Heaven instead of Hell. The love of money is the root of all evil.
Being in bail, we have relationships with all kinds of people-straight, gay, lesbian, thieves, drug addicts, rapists, child molesters, drunks, and the like. You name it-they walk through the door. That doesn’t mean that we get in bed with them! A lot of bail agents in Denver ended up in check fraud, dope, and in the bed with their clients.
Jesus said (Mathew 7:13-20) that broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat… I want to take a billion souls to Heaven with me.
Compromisers are plentiful, but those that stand for the truth of the Word of God will be persecuted. It has always been that way. Jesus said that if they hated Him, who was Love Incarnate and without sin, those that love Him will also be hated. Evil hates the Light because Light exposes the sin.
Bottom line, I want to stand before the Lord one day and have him say “Well Done” for telling people the truth. One purpose in my life is from an old song: If I can help somebody as I pass along, then my living shall not be in vain.
Jesus came to undo the works of the devil. A lot of Christians won’t even admit that the devil exists. They are defeated at the gate when we are in a battle where we, and our loved ones, will spend eternity.
Perhaps the BGLT group would not be protesting so much if some of the so-called Christians would have just loved everyone like they are human, with feelings. Just because we don’t agree does not mean that there is nothing that we can agree on.
09. Juni um 20:29
Cassie Lawerence
I know what my friends are doing is wrong, because it clearly states it in the bible.. But WHO are WE to JUDGE? GOD is the ONLY Judge.. and I do tell them that what they are doing is wrong,, but who am I to tell them to change? I cant force them to change.. But when I see the system hurting people that i know and not allowing them to freely live ... Mehr anzeigentheir life's I want to help take a stand..
There are many religons,churches, versions of the bible, etc. and as long as we are following what GOD wants us to do.. We can't really change anything..
I love my friends to death, and know what they are doing wrong.. But friends let friends be who they are.. I CANT change them from being gay or lesbian.. I cant just say change to being straight..
I personally think that DOG and Beth and the children stood up for what they believe.. And I think that it was a great thing for them to do .. and they are strong believers in god and they know what is right and whats wrong.. and they took a stand..
Friends dont let friends go to hell ... all i have to say to that is .. WE CANT CHANGE THEM! We can only tell them how we feel about what they are doing..
09. Juni um 20:55
Jolene Chapman
And while I am on a roll, what is this junk about promoting and high-fiving strippers, playboy bunnies, and witches. Let those that name the Name of the Lord walk the walk.
Jesus cast the devil out of Mary Magdalene, (Mark 16:9) who was the prostitute in His time. She became one of the Lord... Mehr anzeigen’s most faithful followers because of the appreciation of the forgiveness the Lord showed her. She admitted that she was a sinner. Even though Jesus already died for all, you have to accept his Salvation and confess it with your mouth.
False prophets have departed from the faith claiming that everyone is going to Heaven since Jesus died once. They also claim that that there is not a Hell. You better read “A Divine Revelation of Hell” by Mary Baxter while you still have an opportunity to save yourself.
Mary Magdalene didn’t stay a prostitute/adulterer/stripper and walk around half-dressed, or pose naked, showing her body to the world after she surrendered her life to the One who loved her. She became “like Jesus’ mother Mary and put away all that was contrary.”
Who is your American Idol--Jezebel or Mary! Wake up Church! If these people end up in Hell because we were “too embarrassed” to tell them the truth, their blood will be on our hands. That means that we murdered them and no murderer will go to Heaven. Read The Book.
Look at the testimony of a former Las Vegas Prostitute named Sandy Brown. That is what real Christianity and God’s power is about.
09. Juni um 21:09
Jolene Chapman
Cassie, You are not the Judge. The Word of God is and that is why we are told to be witnesses and the Lord will confirm His Word! Mark 16:20
Do you tell an officer that you will violate the speeding law because “he is not the Judge”?
The Word of God is the foundation for everything.... Mehr anzeigen
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Rom 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Rom 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
09. Juni um 21:16

RE: Scheinheilige Christen in der Familie
in Alle anderen & Alles andere 16.06.2010 13:41von Kiwi • Besucher | 5.827 Beiträge
Es folgt nochmal ein Monolog von Jolene mit Bibelzitaten:
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No H8
Mittwoch, 9. Juni 2010 um 11:29
What is on my mind?! Contending for the faith after certain pics and words were brought to my attention today!
I cannot help but think how the Angels (let alone Jesus) feel compassion and sadness for Saints that deny the faith, especially for fame and fortune--not under any torture or persecution.
After all, the Holy Angels understand temptation themselves. Satan succeeded and conned one-third of the angels in following him in a revolt to overthrow Our Creator. They all lost and had a rude awakening when they were cast out of the Presence of God for ever and ever. People that have seen Hell have said that the worst torture of Hell was being removed from a loving Creator. Death and evil have no life from God in them.
The Bible says that Hell was made for the devil and the angels that followed him. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels…
Too bad that men and women are still being deceived by this con-spirit, the devil, and are are choosing to go to Hell by the droves. You never want to hear those words in Hell: Too Late. Too late!
Jesus warned us about being lukewarm and eventually denying him. Seemingly great men fall when they start paying attention to the wrong things and eventually fall into sin. Hebrews talked about this in chapter 11, verse 15.
Heb 11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
If you set your eyes on something, you will eventually find yourself pursuing it and a door of entrance will be opened to you--good or bad. That is why Paul, by the Holy Ghost, said to renew our minds so that we can be transformed. It is not an overnight thing either. It is a life journey.
Colossians 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Colossians 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
We must learn to die daily to the flesh. Often, to be able to do this it means changing some surroundings or the people that are surrounding us.
There is a song that says: When He was on the Cross that day, I was on His mind.
Now it is our turn to return the favor and live for Him who died for us. Our time on Planet Earth is short, but Eternity is forever.
I also put my thoughts on Twitter. When they stoned the Apostle Paul to death for what he said, Jesus raised him from the dead and he went on his way—Acts 14:19-20. Jesus is my Resurrection.

RE: Scheinheilige Christen in der Familie
in Alle anderen & Alles andere 16.06.2010 13:50von Kiwi • Besucher | 5.827 Beiträge
Und schlussendlich der Status, der mich überhaupt erst auf die Sache aufmerksam gemacht hat.
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Jolene Chapman
Jeepers! Rumor has it that family members are calling other family members and kicking them out of the family for not endorsing the gay pride rallies. Wow, again, money and fame seems to run thicker than blood. Money and fame will vanish, but you cannot change the blood baby. How long will you run away, a fugitive from God?
Gestern um 21:12
Dazu entspann sich in der Nacht noch ein Austausch... den allerdings versteh ich nicht ganz, vor allem den Kommentar von Michaels Tochter Bridgette.
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Crystal Osterdock Trujillo
Im praying for people in my family too. :-)
vor 13 Stunden
Dorthy Kingery
Family can be fickle~ hopefully when the time comes, blood WILL be thicker than water, or makeup or... ;p
vor 12 Stunden
Jolene Chapman
The truth is what sets people free and I will post the truth since it is my Facebook page.
vor 12 Stunden
Heather Sue
Amen Jolene!
vor 10 Stunden
Jolene Chapman
So much for the "No H8=no hate!"
vor 8 Stunden
Bridgette Chapman-Galusha
but u telling lies about stuff you dont even know about. Keep erasing me because u dont like to hear the truth. Please quit being so vindictive, this is all SO unbecoming of christian ladies!!
vor 8 Stunden
Chaplain Dave Voshell
I am praying for a great outpouring of the Holy Spirit of God. Then there will be repentance where it is needed and of course reconciliation will come. The Bible says, "Let not the sun go down on your wrath." Carol and I have practiced that for 46 years and it works. Love you all
vor 7 Stunden
Was meint ihr dazu? Kann's das sein, dass wegen einem Engagement für eine gute Sache ein Familienstreit ausbricht, der allen ernstes an der BIBEL festgemacht wird? Ich mein - ehrlich gesagt finde ich auch nicht, dass homosexuelle Paare heiraten müssen, aber sicher nicht weil's in der Bibel steht sondern weil für MICH eine Familie aus Mama, Papa und Kindern besteht... ich mag die Gleichstellung der gleichgeschlechtlichen Beziehungen vor dem Gesetz nicht, das wertet in meinen Augen eine Familie ab. Die Beziehung an sich ist mir egal, ob die nun mit jemandem vom gleichen Geschlecht ins Bett gehen oder net... wenn's ihnen Spaß macht, bitteschön, ich muss es ja nicht tun. Aber wenn jemand aus meiner Familie nun so eine Organisation unterstützen würde, würde ich ihn doch deshalb net angreifen???
Andererseits ist es auch nicht in Ordnung von Dog oder jemandem aus diesem Familienteil zu sagen, wenn du mein Engagement nicht unterstützt gehörst du nicht mehr zur Familie. Eins ist so verbohrt wie das andere.

RE: Scheinheilige Christen in der Familie
in Alle anderen & Alles andere 16.06.2010 21:22von naddlrocks • Besucher | 1.164 Beiträge
Und wieder eine Sache die ich mit miamaus schon mal hatten und wahrscheinlich wieder recht hatten.
Also ich finde es meiner Meinung komplett übertrieben wie die da in der Sendung immer Beten und ihre Predigen halten. Und das stimmt auch das es für christen die Beziehung aus adam und eva besteht.
Nur kommt mir gerade in den Sinn, das sie es vielleicht auch gemacht, weil sie für den Frieden und miteinanderleben sind. Ich meine Barack Obama ist auch christ und so weit wie meine informationen sind, setzt er sich auch für homosexuelle ein. Das heißt noch lange nicht das sie es selber für gut halten müssen, nur weil sie Gerechtigkeit für alle wollen.
Ich find die ganze Glaubenssache ist generell bei den Amis komplett überzogen ist.
Ich finds gut, was sie machen. Wenn man mich fragen würde, würde ich es auch machen, auch wenn ich auch nicht für sowas bin. Was ich aber akzeptiere, da es auch menschen mit Gefühlen sind.

RE: Scheinheilige Christen in der Familie
in Alle anderen & Alles andere 17.06.2010 11:49von Cate • Besucher | 761 Beiträge
Also ich finde es von Jolene ein wenig übertrieben, dass sie nun so reagiert, nur weil sich Dog und Co. für diese Kampagne einsetzen.
Warum kann sie es nicht so akzeptieren?
Ich denke, wenn ich das Wort Familie höre, auch zuerst an Vater-Mutter-Kind und nicht an Mutter-Mutter-Kind oder andersrum.
Trotzdem finde ich es nicht so schlimm, wenn auch homosexuelle Paare heiraten können.
Aber Deutschland kann man noch lange nicht mit den USA vergleichen...einerseits darf man bei denen Auto fahren mit 16 und Knarren besitzen, aber andererseits erst ab 21 Alkohol trinken.
Sie sind doch eh ein wenig prüde wenn es um Sex etc. geht...ich muss da direkt an die Serie "eine himmlische Familie" denken...bei denen war es eine Todsünde Sex vor der Ehe zu haben!!!
Auch das ganze mit Gott geht mir ein wenig auf die Nerven...ich bin zwar katholisch aber übertreiben muss man es ja auch nicht.

RE: Scheinheilige Christen in der Familie
in Alle anderen & Alles andere 17.06.2010 13:45von Destiny • 1.389 Beiträge
Cate ich stimm dir im letzten Satz zu. Wie mein ICQ Satz besagt: Ich habe nichts gegen Gott, aber seine Fanclubs gehen mir auf den Sack!
Steht denn nicht auch in der Bibel das du alle Menschen lieben sollst? Irgendwie widerspricht sich Gott ja dann selbst. Er hat doch alle so geschaffen wie sie sind wenn man daran glaubt. Dann doch auch die Homosexuellen oder hat das der Teufel gemacht? Vielleicht sind sie von Dämonen besessen. Wie wärs mit Exorzismus?
Ich finde das alles Scheiße! Jeder soll machen was er will! Ende!

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